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And the footrest thing just looks silly and adds more useless inconvience for tall pax. The A380 can carry up to 853 . Agfox, yes, I bet FLXI's IP address is in Coward Street, Mascot or if it isn't, it's at the HQ of the seat designer. "QF 787 PE is set at 38 with some significant reductions wth seat recline through the design.". Your all-inclusive guide to Qantas providing the most comprehensive resource on current aircraft, . Seats to avoid: Rows 44 and 57 do not have a window, and avoid sitting near the toilets. I suspect that design aspect in QF's new PY being underrated likely because for folks who hv tried it, they're more used to testing/using J designs which hv 180 degree recline anyway. But according to Skyscanner . No it just hasn't been mentioned in the article. Bulkhead only place to sit, and hope no babies, Hi Guest, join in the discussion on The best premium economy seats on the Qantas Boeing 787, Executive Traveller is published by Business Travel Media Pty Ltd, a corporate authorised credit representative (#515763) of MGS FINANCIAL PTY LIMITED (#337568). Seat width: 17 inches. Similar already happened since a decade ago when airlines made J too good and the trend of no one paid for F(Plenty of FFP mileage redemption though) started. . "When even scoot could factory fit WiFi to their budget 787 aircraft..". Key facts: Qantas 787 Economy seats. The reason NOT to fly premium economy: wild inconsistency. This is the cabin that won the 2019 TPG Award for best premium economy. PER-LHR non-stop like this? The economy seats on the 787-9 measure 17.2 inches in width and 32 inches in pitch. Funny you say that, I've flown PE on Qantas and Cathay and found I couldn't get my legs in a comfortable position which hindered sleep. below, then click 'Submit'. If the above is true and seat/aisle width and recline are therefore irrelevant/not primary reason, "someone' should just "pay the price premium" for Y+ "in the first case".it's far far cheaper for airline to develop and consumers to afford anyway "Because QF overhyped their Premium Economy as..". Unlike the premium economy seat of theQantas A380, and most other airlines, theres no legrest built into the front of the Dreamliner's seat Caon says this is because it has a limited range of motion and in the end it doesn't fully support your feet.". But that's the point David and I were making, rather than setting the seat to flat we prefer setting it to a recliner position for sleep. Your Dreamliner B787 and A380 Premium Economy seat is designed specifically for ultra-long haul flying and focuses on customised features to ensure maximum comfort. Selecting the best seats in Premium Economy on the Qantas B787 9 Dreamliner, with Tom Otley, Editor of Business Traveller . You can recline eight inches in your 38" seat pitch seat, 19.5" across. Departure: 16:25 Arrival 06:40+1. If youve forgotten your password, simply enter your email address The Qantas 787 reviews for Economy class are also mixed. Why the same complaints not extended here on this forum. By Chris C., December 22 2016. Whilst NZ did make the right decision by removing the row of its ironically named Spaceseat, it blew up its economics and doomed it to the scrapheap. hope QF looks at this issue and removes a row to create extra space. QF 787 Y 3:3:3 layout, VA 777 is 3:3:3 on a much wider fuselage so again its less seat (narrower) longer flights no revolution there, US flights the VA Y seat looks again more spacious. Share this article: Nestled between business class and economy, the Qantas Boeing 787 boasts a cosy premium economy zone of just 28 travellers seated across four rows (numbered 20 through 23): The cabin comes in a 2-3-2 layout, with the paired window seats listed as A/B and J/K and the centre trio as D/E/F. Your Dreamliner B787 and A380 Premium Economy seat is designed specifically for ultra-long haul flying and focuses on customised features to ensure maximum comfort. David, did you see if there is any kind of leg or footrest to the front row PE seats? Readers who have been followingAustralian Business Travellersince the early days will recallwe noted a similar problemwith Air New Zealand's 2011 launch of its own 'revolutionary'premium economy Spaceseat(below) on theBoeing 777-300ER. For sleeping row 23: With a bulkhead wall behind and nobody to bump your seat, plant yourself in row 23 and enjoy remaining reclined and asleep, even if those around you are eating. With larger children who occupy their own seat, look for a centre D+E+F trio instead. The ergonomically designed headrest can be fitted with a specially . Premium Economy: Seat Recline. Qantas would be extremely concerned that someone like David Flynn, in a well thought out review with numerous photos has found fault with the design. Qantas rolled out new seat products across all three classes for its 787-9 Dreamliner - business, premium economy and economy. to be comfortable, especially for the premium prices QF charge. So it makes little sense to pay for what could well be obsolete or just last-gen (or last-last gen) kit now, versus waiting until you're ready to go and can buy and retrofit the latest kit for maximum performance. Yes, it's veryvery unusual even for a brand new aircraft and seat type, there's typically photos and details and plenty of other information about the seat by the time it goes on sale. The over-sized winged headrest has plenty of vertical adjustment to suit passengers of almost any height, and a thick custom pillow more like a bolster in some ways slides over the headrest for added comfort (especially when it's nap-time), an arrangement which also prevents the pillow from sliding around and slipping down behind your back. That will probably need a rethink. Maximum 24inch width available per section. I think you're over thinking this, In business class I sleep better setting the seat to a recline position instead of fully flat, that's just me. Awards Our route from SFO to Australia tonight on QF50 - a bit more over-water flying than I'm comfortable with if I'm . "I like more of the recline than fully flat in Business. 3. The initial part of my trip, London to Sydney via Bangkok will be available to read at a later date. If Caon cannily built a convenient tablet-holder in front of the seatback screens, for passengers who prefer to BYO inflight video and movies, with sufficient size to hold even a 13-inch iPad Pro. But I have yet to see a PE seat that retains the sense of space and comfort. September 15, 2019. Seat pitch and width: 38"- 42" and 19.5 . (Bassinets are indicated by an orange dot on the seat map above.). The A350 seat is narrower than the A380 seat though. I'm all for recline, but the implementation here looks dreadful - loss of leg room, and getting way more 'up close and personal' with the head of the person in front than I've seen before ! G'DAY OWFsquad and welcome to my 32nd flight in 2020! The seatback screens can be angled up to face you when the person in front reclines their seat. Airbus A380-800 - VH-OQB - "Hudson Fysh". Seat: Premium Economy 35B. The more surprising feature that's lacking is inflight wifi. . Premium economy cabin. Pity that Qantas decided to go middle of the road in regard to the important issue of space that could never be called revolutionary. Always easy to declare a product as inferior when focusing only on its negative aspects and another product as superior when focusing only on its positive aspects. Photo: Brent Winstone. Signing up with Executive Traveller only takes a second and lets you Good article. Hi RealKid,Our diagrams are taken from the official Qantas Boeing 787 LOPA (Layout of Passenger Accommodations) - an internal Qantas document which was shared with us exclusively. The original concept was developed by Thompson Aero Seating the same firm behind the Boeing 787sbusiness class seat and brought into the real world by David Caon. For maximum legroom and space row 20: Located at the front of the cabin, these seats prove the roomiest thanks to the generous gap between them and the bulkhead wall in front. When reclined it could be the tightest PE on the market. Premium Economy: AU$3,056. For instance FLX1 seems to have made further comments - I can read them on my email - but they don't yet seem to be in the thread here. Correct me if I'm wrong. Air France. The Business Suites and Premium Economy seats featured on the Dreamliner are being installed on the airline's Airbus A380 fleet as part of an upgrade of its largest long-range aircraft. Obviously not up to business, but enough The business revolution on the 787 seams lacking. For more information, read our latest review. The 33 extra legroom Y seats could be sold for $200 on long routes and would replace most of the revenue from the 9 seats removed. Hmm perhaps Qantas might revert back to 31" in Economy to make room for 40" in Premium Economy??? "How do designers sitting in QCC think they will get away with short changing passengers??". What a fantastic and detailed review David. The luxury continues with Singapore Airlines . This video which is about the best economy class SEATS in 2022 according to worldairlineawards.com is the second in my new series of top ten classes in the t. Scoot simply taps into this same agreement and the same service. Find the best seat wiht our Qantas Boeing 787-9 (789) seating chart. Any indication that QF are aware of the situation? Qantas Premium Cabin Award Space Released. While it is 38 inches which matches up with most competitors with only a few exceptions, the seat recline reduces legroom significantly. Seat Type: Standard Recliner. Only can see rows 40 and beyond with seat selection. Economy vs. For everybody else, there's no reason to choose yourself a centre ('E') seat when every other seat in the cabin is by a window or aisle. It's a seat design tradeoff and recent history plus negative comments here hv already shown U can't win positive pax response either way and it's just keep going around in costly seat design & development circles if airlines do continue to act according to consumer feedbacks such as the comment section here. All economy seats on Qantas 737-800 are a disgrace. Chris is a a former contributor to Executive Traveller. If you have not received the activation email, simply enter your email address below, then click 'Submit'. This pitch is an inch longer than that of its competitors, though the seat is narrower by 0.3 inches and a 6-inch recline makes for a comfortable flight as well. Premium economy seats on the Qantas 787-9 Dreamliner are arranged in four rows of 2-3-2 seating. Seats. Premium Economy Classic Flight Rewards on the Perth-Rome route. A hint of this is already evident in this glossy PR photo (eyeball the proximity of the model's knees against the seatback) and that's the recline of your own seat. Seat pitch: 32 inches. THE SEAT. However for some folks, such obvious facts/actual cabin specs do no matter in their SQ better than QF or 350 better than 787 comments/speculations.. "tried the current QF A380 premium economy product, this new one has effectively less legroom as explained and shown in the article.". United Boeing 787 Economy Class. It's a complete construct combining a supportive calf-rest and a cradle into which you can tuck your feet. I am a big fan of Qantas and was very much looking forward to the new PE. Wow. Of course, consumers and their feedbacks don't care about design specs of PY being too close to J and the Rev$ consequences. And people wonder why we bag Qantas as being a crap airline! AUSTRIAN AIRLINES. I'm not desperately citing anything except my personal experience, I'm not telling anyone they should or would experience the same as I do. I was prepared to change my stripes for my quarterly trips to NYC based on this product but I'll stay with VA/DL thanks. Distribute 7seats +2aisles across a cabin diameter of 216inches. Resend one to yourself here. Qantas WiFi offers a very fast and pleasingly free way to stay connected above the clouds on its domestic Boeing 737 and Airbus A330 flights. Premium Economy; Economy; Onboard. Cabin and Seat. Qantas Boeing 787 Seat Map - Updated 2023. Here are the best watches of the year: should you care? Sadly, a few issues not all of them related to the seat itself keep it from reaching its full crowd-pleasing potential. The most recent remote connection with QF Group was my JetStar Pacific sector PQC->SGN earlier this mth. Singapore Airlines. 5. Quite disappointing. Economy seats are narrower (by 0.76 centimetres) than those on Qantas' larger international planes, but I couldn't tell. Ok, apart from the hammock thing it's no advance over something like the prev gen PE seating on EVA - Which at it's height had 40" pitch (reduced to 38 when they reconfigured the J cabin), same pivot-cradle style seat but executed better - with leg-rest, and seat dropped into it's own space when reclined, minimising the space encroachment on the passenger behind. What I tend to do is when available, I assess by seat product specs and hopefully, some clear photos/diagrams revealing the product fm all angles and all available adjustment config/setting. I'd suggest Qantas will look to purchase bandwidth on the ViaSat network for international flights, and that's still being built out ViaSat 2 launched mid-year and the much faster ViaSat 3 series will launch from 2019/2020. Score: 84. The Air France PE suffers the same fate as the Air NZ Spaceseat. Here's the side-on view with a front seat reclined: Note the leg position of the passenger in the rear seat: I'm in the shot below, and despite being bog-average in height you can still see how my legs are close to the rear of the seat without even the room to cross them. The irony is that the Dreamliner has a much better premium economy seat but the implementation of that seat in the pitch assigned to it is where this falls down, IMHO. parties. Use this seat map to get the most comfortable seats, legroom and recline before booking. 7. The business class seat is based off of Thompson Aero's . Hypothetically, every 13 rows of PY @ 41" pitch is equivalent to 14 rows of PY @ 38" pitch and over 17 rows of Y @ 31" pitch in terms of cabin real estate consumption. But my point is comments like "I actually slept worse in the JQ J seat on the 788 than I normally do in the QF Y seat on the 333/332." Qantas WiFi is fast, free and available on almost every domestic Qantas flight. Very astute observation, and I've been pondering the same thing Qantas wants to use this same seat, which I consider a substantial improvement over the current one (apart from concerns over the hammock, but we'll need to see how those play out in reality once the 787 flights begin and there's a body of real-world feedback from thousands of passengers) but it deserves more pitch so I'm hopeful with the amount of time to go for the A380 refit this can be addressed. To push the point further if your flying an extra (3-4hrs) for a 17hr leg wouldnt that flying demand a bar type area to stretch out, and take a break from the seat. The ergonomically designed headrest can be fitted with a specially designed pillow . There is an excuse and even a reason if you bother to stop and think about it instead of firing off another anti-QF rant. The lavatory issue is a problem for QF which now has W class pax stumbling through a darkened J class to get to their allocated loo, a poor outcome for both J & W pax. Didnt receive an activation email? :), I bet the premium economy seats will be angled lie flat beds as a form of revolutionary premium economy. Both Singapore and Virgin would appear to still have better seats Not an unexpected outcome from when this was first shown, a real shame as bringing this inline with VA and AirNZ at 41'' would I expect have made a great seat. Qantas touts its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner premium economy seat as 'revolutionary' and a world champion in the better-than-economy stakes. Emirates. On bigger aircraft, there can be even more . Nov 10, 2019, 6:03 AM. What a missed opportunity this is for QF and their beloved 789. That includes Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide. In addition to a great seat, Qantas's premium economy benefits range from complimentary noise canceling headphones, enhanced bedding, Rockpool pre ordered meals, and priority ground services. Other perks include dedicated check-in, priority boarding, an amenity kit and upgraded dining. I cant quite get my head around the space (mis)calculation here given the 17 hour routes they are planning combined with what will be certainly a $ premium over established W competitors such as SQ and CX with their more comfortable seats and aircraft. Further . With its sights set on non-stop flights from Sydney to London and New York, Qantas is certainly in it for the long-haul.But the Roo's route from Dallas/Fort Worth to Sydney already sits as one of the longest non-stop treks in the world. Pitch 32". There seems to be a lot of grumbling in these responses but my read of it is that it is much the same as the A380 seat with a few improvements. Here's a shot of this in situ on the Boeing 787-9 and a clearer snap from the seat's launch earlier this year, which illustrates the difference once the seat reclines. However, the truth is that the entire plane is pretty epic, and among the most advanced of its kind. Unfortunately at 190cm I just dont fit. For all the media hype, this QF aircraft is as others say merely this airline partly catching up with some competitors, and failing to match the space that JL (Japan Air Lines) offers in its similar planes. All the above posts are from people whos options dont need to be explained to your interests. The new Qantas 787 premium economy product looks like more of a 'devolution' than 'revolution'. "The Air NZ space seats replacement41''. Capital One Venture X Rewards Credit Card. 20. The joy of the . The Premium Economy seating on the Qantas 787 is a huge step down from their retiring 747 fleet. Booked economy Per Mel on 787-9 and was able to book row 20, first row in economy but in fact its premium economy seating. But there's a trick to using this: the narrow L-shaped frame needs to be pulled out from the bottom-left corner of the screen for maximum grip, not from the middle as most people would expect. Qantas. Premium Economy sounds and looks terribly uncomfortable. It's completely free and we'll never pass your information on to In fact having been on SQ A350, I find their 2-4-2 premium economy configurations quite tight. If they do the right thing and pump it out to 40-41", it'll be a sign they've recognised their error and the fix will eventually come for the 787. EVA Air. This is not business class!! Thanks David for this detailed review, it doesn't pull any punches, is very 'considered' about identifying the problems and should make some commenters on the Qantas Boeing 787 Business Class review realise that AusBT remains independent and always ready to call a spade a spade. This goes beyond a small section of netting at the bottom of the seat. Responding to a wave of criticism, Air New Zealand quicklyremoved an entire row of seatsfrom the premium economy cabin to deliver between four and six extra inches of legroom for each passenger. On the 787-9, there are only 166 economy seats in a 3-3-3 configuration. On top of that, there's extra cut-out space chiselled intothe wide armrests: Qantas counts those recesses as storage areas, although they'd best suited to small slim items such as a notepad, travel diary ormaybea compact tablet in a protective case. Leaving aside the economics, I know where I would rather be. Is it unusual that they have started selling these seats despite not revealing what they look like/what you'll actually get for your money? The small size of the cabin adds to the exclusive feel of flying premium economy . 30" pitch is horrific. The newest product is on the Airbus A350. Access to all AVOD system content thru a built-in screen @ every seat onboard 787 free of charge is soooo obviously not an excuse for the lack of inflight wifi by QF.. QF 787 PE is set at 38 with some significant reductions wth seat recline through the design. behind a fully reclined seatback,and having to climb across one's By providing more seat recline and seat/aisle width than the PY of competitors in return for less knee room in maximum recline mode I suppose?? third Qantas 787 Premium Economy seats. I pay no attention to any review where the pax flew 'courtesy of'. Find out what makes the Qantas Dreamliner 787-9 the most advanced long-haul aircraft of its type anywhere . I sleep better in economy with no leg rest. In fact, I hv never bought a single QF ticket despite flying @ least 12 flight sectors per yr across multiple airlines for the past 2decades. An interesting review! I have used SQ premium economy, while nice, compared with standard economy, I prefer the QF product. The Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner has 166 Economy seats in a 3-3-3 cabin configuration. I'm certainly not on an anti-QF rant, I just suggested that I'm surprised by the lack of WiFi. PS Can't help but think FLX1 is a Qantas troll. Premium Economy is supposed to be a lot better than economy, nobody here is asking for business class at PE prices, but adequate legroom is an essential part of the PE product offering and this seat or rather the pitch assigned to it by Qantas doesn't deliver. Im flying that on the inaugural QF9 mar24 and certainly confirms my initial thoughts of the publicity shots that it is tighter for legroom than I would expect. Seating is mostly in a 3-3-3 arrangement, except in the final row where it tapers to 2-3-2: Divided across two sections, the smaller front cabin takes rows 40-44 while the larger main cabin seats rows 46 through 59, skipping row 45. For couples and duos the A+B and J+K pairs: When travelling with a partner or friend, there's no reason to have a seatmate in the centre group when you can instead sit together by the windows! Still a tight fit, didn't get pics along the lines you suggested (due to limited time during the walk-through pre-delivery, and then the premium economy cabin being near-full of sleeping media on the overnight leg of the delivery flight itself). Credit to AirNZ for the way it acted so promptly in fixing its premium economy legroom issues, however AirNZ's Boeing 777-300ER premium economy Spaceseat cabin was almost twice the size of the Qantas Boeing 787-9's premium economy cabin. I Hate to say it but even American Airlines offers inseat power in each economy seat on their 787's, well at least in main cabin extra. I'd also love to know where you heard about Scoot and Singapore Airlines sharing bandwidth from cause I've never heard of such thing before. Not me as the design trade offs are obvious and 38inches seat pitch was not revealed by QF only yesterday.the deep recline capability was kinda news though. " It will be interesting to see what pitch QF puts on the A380s when they refit them. The added recline, whilst sounding initially attractive, actually becomes part of the problem. Qantas has premium economy sections on its Airbus A380 and Boeing 787 aircraft that offer a slightly wider seat and more legroom than standard economy. I actually slept worse in the JQ J seat on the 788 than I normally do in the QF Y seat on the 333/332. Compared to economy class, Vistara's premium economy cabin sees passengers enjoy more pitch, recline, and a leg rest that deploys from below the seat. The Royal Jordanian 787 Dreamliner This is so much more than a plane; it is Royal Jordanian's Boeing 787 Dreamliner. Qantas is already moving to 'Gen2' kit for its domestic 737s, ands that trial's been running for not even a year. Each seat has a 13.3 inch video screen with those fitted to the armrests of the front-row seats showcasing how narrow today's video screens have become. Solo travellers will also prefer the window seats here to avoid being awoken during the flight when their seatmate needs to hop up. . Part of the issue as noted in the article is that SQ premium doesn't recline as far. Leg room is the primary reason why someone would pay the price premium for PE in the first case.". An excellent review from Mr Flynn, and nice to see an independent evaluation rather than a reproduction Qantas propaganda as per their earlier PR releases.Imagine being on the window seat or middle of the middle seats Question.can I book two economy seats for myself!?? Choose the seat that suits you . Class: Economy. Recline 6". Qantas could fix the PE legroom issue by removing one row of Y from the forward cabin and the distribute the 32inches across PE and the remaining rows of Y. interact with our community. Cost: 1,549 return. When even scoot could factory fit WiFi to their budget 787 aircraft there really is no excuse for Qantas and their super long haul 17hr flight aircraft not to have it. Find the best seat. Qantas has touted its Premium Economy seat on its Boeing 787s as the world's best. Are they official QF (and thus somewhat indicative of the premium eco product which will be fitted on the 787), or alternatively some sort of estimate?Cheers! I've personally found PE not comfortable, once again that's just me, hence saying ironic that I'd prefer economy. 4. Absolutely best in class at the time. Premium Economy is found mostly on international flights and, compared to standard Economy, offers about 5-7 inches of extra legroom as well as additional amenities, which can include: 1-2 extra inches of seat width. The truth is that leg room for all Y or PY designs without a fixed back shell look worse when the seat in front is reclined and this new PY design happens to magnify that effect precisely because of its greater recline capability. Hmm. To quote Shakespeare me thinketh thou complain too much. As the seat goes into the lazy z does it not open back up that space? Qantas touts its Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner premium economy seat as 'revolutionary' and a world champion in the better-than-economy stakes. Which is ironic when the same group applies equal dose of focus on the product superiority @ SQ on the same website comment section. QF31 - Sydney to London via Singapore (SYD-SIN-LHR) 9 June 2009. Air New Zealand Boeing 787-9 Premium Economy. Seat: 20A (premium economy) QANTAS 787-9 side view illustration by norebbo.com. From an AUSBT comment on Facebook: I actually think it's a *very* good seat, it's just let down by lack of legroom the assigned pitch would have been fine for a conventional A380-style premium economy seat, but this seat simply needs more pitch. 19. I'll keep an open mind and give it a go sometime. It works on hydraulics and can be set into a wide range of positions, typically to support your calves while your feet slide into their own hammock. Accordingly, Qantas 787 Business Class and Premium Economy are two high flying dreams come true. Also, SQ is a 100% international airline for obvious reasons.Qantas on the other hand is as much a domestic airline as an international one, perhaps even more so, and it's chosen to outfit its domestic fleet first, for obvious reasons that it will help QF stay ahead in the two-horse race against Virgin, while international is already a very broad field where WiFi won't add as much advantage, so QF's contracts for satellite provider are for Australian coverage (via the NBN satellite), it doesn't have any agreement with an international satellite provider. Thanks . Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/11/16 for Seat 21J. Forum; Mobile; FAQ; Contact Us; Site Map; I think Im not in a hurry to book or get an upgrade to PE with these seats in the near future. Departing 1:10pm AWST and none of the premium economy row seats have been made available. Personally found PE not comfortable, especially for the premium prices QF charge to business, enough. 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