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"In a small sense we have found some peace and contentment," says David. (David speaking to reporters; Kate speaking to reporters; David on radio show; "Dear Zachary" poster; Kurt editing video; photo of Andrew; photo of Zachary; Mr. KUENNE: I almost gave up making this film when you were, killed. Tragedy, doubled Andrew Bagby, a gregarious family-practice resident at Latrobe, was found shot to death on Nov. 5, 2001, in Keystone State Park. Andrew Bagby, 28, was their light, their love, their boy. Get help and learn more about the design. He found that officials working on a presumption of Turner's innocence were more worried about her welfare than that of her son. And one, of the first to see her there was T.J. Shears, the eldest of Shirley's three. I had a husband I loved. MORRISON: Andrew's best friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, suddenly, just knew what he had begun as a small film to memorialize his old friend. As the police closed in on Shirley Jane Turner, their sole suspect made it clear that she would not give up easily. Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' Suspicion immediately fell on an ex-lover, Shirley Turner, well-known among Andrew's friends and family for her one-sided obsession with Bagbyan obsession that led to her driving sixteen hours back to his home after their final breakup the day before Bagby's body was discovered. Then, in August 2003, Shirley Turner killed herself and the one-year-old Zachary by jumping into the Atlantic Ocean. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. It soon became apparent who was responsible. She was, pregnant, and the baby was Andrew's. 7:30 I'll be at your house.'. You can, just--there's nothing. The worst part for me was that Shirley cheated everyone out of seeing justice done. Kuenne said he's grateful that politicians championed a law that could save lives. He is campaigning to change Canadian bail law so no one charged with murder is allowed to walk the streets like Shirley Turner. And I prayed to God to be looking after him. In November 2002, when, Zachary was four months old, a Canadian judge ruled that a properly instructed, jury would likely find Shirley Turner guilty and ordered her incarceration, while awaiting a decision from justice officials to surrender her to the, United States. KATE: You were always afraid that she was going to find something. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. Tragically, Shirley kills Zachary in a murder-suicide. I thought if I do that, I go to prison, maybe Kate. Woman #9: to make that journey was awful. And a desire to write about a Canadian justice system that is fatally flawed. I didn't like her but I didn't think she was capable of murder.". I just finishes the book, and for a first-time writer I thought the writing was excellent. I guess they just clenched their teeth and did it.. Obsessive and unstable, Shirley Turner lied to the police and fled to her family home in Newfoundland before she could be arrested. In November 2002, a year after Andrew's murder, the judge in Turner's extradition case finally threw out the queries raised by her lawyer and put Turner in jail, ruling there was enough evidence to warrant a trial. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. The Bagby's lived a nightmare that no person should ever have to go through and I admire their courage and strength. It's great. From the first episode, it seemed Kate was more invested in the relationship than David. Time for all of them to get together at McDonalds for Zacharys first birthday party. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. A well written memoir by a father who son was murdered by an ex-girlfriend that was pregnant with his son's child. We decided that on the plane.. Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. Both of them were victims of murder. killing Zachary in a murder-suicide. They might as well have sent a taxi to her to help take him out and drown him. They have a mission to bring change from tragedy. The reality was almost too much to comprehend. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son about His Father is a 2008 documentary detailing the life and death of one Dr. Andrew Bagby, a resident at a family practice in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. The night was. And then, November 2001, Andrew Bagby was shot dead in a state park not far from the hospital in which the young doctor was a resident, and his devoted parents all but lost the will to live. was that they'd have to accept her daily phone calls. It would be kind of upsetting, I guess, to let your son spend time. Take a look at Kate and her new love below: In addition to her thriving love life, Kate also created a brand called Spread the Love, which sells clothing and beauty items. Shortly after being taken into custody, Turner announced that she was pregnant with Andrew's child, a boy she named Zachary. She appealed and a hearing was set for September 2003. That one comes back a lot. And that little boy. Mr. SHEARS: She's kind of reliving a university life again. Kate went to the floor, and I kicked the door and--oh, we, just--just like with Andrew, there's nothing you can do. CBC's Journalistic Standards and Practices. We. Wasn't anybody willing to step up(besides the Bagbys) and try to rescue that baby?? MORRISON: But as Kurt made his way around the globe, his tribute materialized into something far bigger, and much darker, than anyone could have imagined. She was granted bail and awarded custody of the child despite the fact that she faced charges ofpremeditated murder and had fled the U.S. David and Kate Bagby moved to St. John's. Im sure shes just gone somewhere. MORRISON: Ah, but there was a lot to say about Andrew. MORRISON: It was almost two years after Andrew Bagby's murder, when Shirley Turner's eldest son T.J. drove home to his girlfriend after an. Temptation Islandairs Tuesdays at 10 pm ET on USA. The September 2006 report, which chronicles the law enforcement and legal developments in the case, provides many of the details in the story that follows. Its rage with me, he says. He was in a little crib and David and I knelt down at his feet and he was just, beautiful.". Andrew came to St. John's. The Bagbys were confident Turner would be returned to Pennsylvania for trial in a matter of weeks. Privacy Policy. Mr. SIMPSON: You don't need to go out with a woman because you can't think you can do better. Do you feel all right about putting, MORRISON: Safe and warm inside the Bagby house, as the gales of a, Newfoundland winter raged outside, the inevitable happened. When we met him, we just melted as if it was magic. But with special people, yes. MORRISON: Must have seemed like the enemy was in the camp. All the years that she was good to me as a mother was pretty much thrown out the window at the end.. It is a story of their love for an infant and a tale of their determination to care for the child, even if it meant learning to live with the woman they were sure had killed their son. It didnt take Pennsylvania police long to put together a suspect and motive, according to the 1,100-page Turner Review and Investigation, which was commissioned by the province of Newfoundland. Trigger warnings for murder, stalking, abuse, and child murder.The Bagbys are saints and seeing the story as it played out for them was better than any true crime book I have read. We had to pack up Zachary, Mr. BAGBY: We just climbed right back upstairs and went to bed and melted. At the final bonfire, David and Kate broke up, with Kateleaving the island aloneand David leaving with one of the single women, Toneata. will not hurt Zachary, period. David Bagby says there were no thoughts of suicide at the news of Zacharys killing. (Newspaper rack; photo of Shirley and Zachary), Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) I am going to continue to scream long and loud, MORRISON: The Bagbys have continued a campaign for the overhaul, of the bail system. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/DearZachary. MORRISON: When T.J. heard about Andrew's murder Mr. SHEARS: I just figure, `OK, well, he was in America. Said, `Oh, no, I really can't.'. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. IE 11 is not supported. "Kate and I are very close and that helps. After breaking up at the final bonfire and ultimately reconciling, here's what David and Kate have been up to since Temptation Island season 2 aired. In the beginning, Kate did not pursue any romantic relationshipswith the single menin the house, but David almost immediately started flirting with the single women. Memorial University Medical School. MORRISON: The ammunition used to kill Andrew was CCI .22 caliber bullets. Kate to keep up their end of that bargain. MORRISON: Despite it all, the Bagbys were thrilled to be living, with Zachary. At 3am on Monday, August 18, Turner drove to a near by marina . I would really like for you and Kate. Cpl. Theyd fly back to Sunnyvale to hold a memorial service. and, despite her history of unstable behavior, stalking men who wanted to escape from her insanity and documented history of suicidal gestures when rejected by any of her numerous lovers Shirley Turner was allowed to retain primary physical and legal custody of her son that she was pregnant with when she murdered his father, Zachary. Easy duty. If. And that was midafternoon. Andrews said he was inspired to act two years ago when he saw the documentary film Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. One contains the remains of their son, Dr. Andrew Bagby. granddad? Audio CD. The Bagbys offered each other a balance. After Andrew Bagby's death, Turner left Pennsylvania for Newfoundland, her home province, and gave birth to their son. He was a happy baby, with strawberry-blond hair and Andrew's nose. But Andrew's murder was only the first in a string of tragic events. Nurse and mother Kate Bagby was at work caring for patients the day she heard . Sold and delivered by Audible, an Amazon company, By completing your purchase, you agree to Audibles. What if she is backed in a. corner? (Shears; photo of Shirley, Zachary and Shears; Shears walking), Mr. SHEARS: Suddenly everything rushes into you, and you realize that she, did murder Andrew. MORRISON: You didn't seriously think of--I mean, you talk about this plan Mr. BAGBY: Absolutely. As the months slowly passed, the Bagbys visitation rights were expanded. to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. For parents Dave and Kate, the pain was unbearablebut Andrew's murder was only the first in a string of tragic events. At first, the Bagbys did not know whether to believe her. Nobody drives 16 hours after you've just broken up with them.' He loved to laugh, Kate says. The youngster's death followed the killing of his father, Andrew Bagby the couple's only child. This story is about how the justice system in Canada failed the Bagby's -- not only when it comes to extraditing the murderer of their only son, but in aiding the murder of their only grandchild, Zachary -- their last living link to their son. It was a joy and Zachary was much loved, Kate says. We're churning. The Turner report says their relationship soon deteriorated. Hes been murdered, Kate said to David. It is absolutely heartbreaking. (Photo of Shirley, Kate and Zachary; photo of Shirley, David and Zachary; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I just want your word that I'm going to, know where he's at, like any babysitter, you know, if you're going to take him, anywhere, just say, `Shirley, we're going to run out and do this. get a chance to have some of Andrew again. unforgivable and that's just the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. then one day I realized what it was. Box 500 Station A Toronto, ON Canada, M5W 1E6. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah. MORRISON: But then things changed. By Mike Cassidy | Bay Area News Group. Kurt's film, meanwhile, was released last year and hailed in the US as one of 2008's most moving documentaries. It would take two weeks. David Bagby has written such a poignant account of the sordid happenings and has brought both Andrew and Zachary alive on the pages. But the Bagbys, who live in San Jose, California, could scarcely imagine what lay in store for them. Everyone could see how far off the deep end Shirley Turner was, including the very justice system that continued to set her free and place an innocent child in her arms. They sometimes visited with Zachary and Turner as if nothing had happened. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed. "We never expected it. Not only do you get the whole story of how the justice system failed, but Dave goes on to explain how it should be fixed. It is gut wrenching to read the details and to hear how much both Andrew and David were loved by both David and his wife. Newfoundland MP Scott Andrews introduced the private member's bill to reform bail provisions. Reviewed in the United Kingdom on March 12, 2018, Reviewed in the United Kingdom on September 28, 2017. of a woman and a baby on the beach, and I lost it again. I had two sisters already, so a brother, because now I'd have somebody that I can teach about hockey and, (Shears and Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary). The legal system helped her kill Zachary. In November 2001, Bagby was found dead under suspicious circumstances in a local park, to the anguish of many. The couple are still coping with the murders of their son and grandson. Shirley Turner, a 40-year-old mother of three and Andrew's on-off girlfriend, had fled a bloodstained scene littered with incriminating evidence. and our The treatments worked a sweet miracle and on Sept. 25, 1973, Andrew David Bagby was born. He was like Andrew. So we called, and he came over and told us that Zachary and Shirley were. The book is not written as a narrative, with suspense building until we find out what eventually takes place. I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. But the book is also the story of a remarkable couple whose journey of grief took them from the suburban comfort of Northern California to the harsh coast and courts of Newfoundland, Canada. In November 2001, Bagby was found dead under suspicious circumstances in a local park, to the anguish of many. But before that could happen, Shirley was apparently deemed neither, dangerous nor a flight risk and almost immediately released on bail, most of, it posted by one of her mentors from med school, a psychiatrist to whom she'd, gone for treatment after Andrew's murder. Not always. Mr. BAGBY: Constable Walsh asking to call him. ', Mr. SHEARS: Things happen in America that don't seem to happen up here as. Next: Temptation Island: Where To Follow The Season 3 Single Girls On IG. "We had to do something to channel our rage and sorrow," he says. He has clearly done his research of the law and proposes many ways that this type of tragic event could be prevented in the future. "At some point in the future, a judge will see this and research it and I'm hoping that it will protect minor children.". David, the analytical engineer with the scientific mind. My heart aches for Kate and David Bagby. However awkward Shirley Turner made it, they were sweet, cooperative. Yes, I went to great lengths to read this book and I'm glad I did! I only live a block away.' While watching the few minutes of the show, I could not believe that what the woman in the 'story' had done (at the end of the show/book) (and don't want to give away the ending here). `When Andrew would cry, David would say, `To think we paid good money for this,' Kate jokes. Ultimately, the Bagbys desire to be with Zachary, the one they loved the most, required them to cooperate with Turner, the one they despised the most. His wife and himself also were quick to not harvest bitterness towards Turner's children,relatives,etc. And she followed Andrew to St. John's.. Why didn't the many people who witnessed Shirley Turner's disturbing behavior and intense wrath make an issue in the courts more of it? First published in 2007, Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss follows Andrew's family as they . a month after 30 days. 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