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Theyd survive if the veg room was above 55%. In annuals, if the plant is a bush type, trim back one-third of the plant. That will do it least you learnt something next time start with 1 - 2 " seedling pot let it grow until you see roots coming out the bottom or sides .. Let soil dry out so root ball and soil stays together.. take out gently and transplant into a pot 2 times as deep and wide as leafs . I cant find guidelines on how much to mix anywhere. but as we all know, it can be a one of a million things. I'm running a vivosun 315 cmh with 2 100w LEDs, AC infinity 4 in vent system. To transplant weed clones: Put soil in your pots first. Lets look at these. The tips are starting to get black and curl. It can also be used as a transplant shock preventer if applied at the time of transplanting. Read more articles about Environmental Problems. Hey all, i figured id make a seperate thread for this little girl. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I totally agree with Steve. As with cloning, transplanting clones can be a totally automated process. The fine roots that absorb the bulk of the water . Transplant to the dirt and mist the dome/pitcher and put it over the clone for the first two days. I have not had a seed not germinate. Make sure they're firmly seated in the medium. However, my mother/veg room humidity levels have drastically tanked to low 40s which generally isnt the case. Signs Of A Root Bound Plant: How Do I Know If A Plant Is Root Bound? Sounds like a nice fit for short indicas, yup. 1. Am I overwatering or doing something wrong? My first time grow is having problem help please! I have had that happen with my clones and after about 5 hours under the dome they looked fine. You must log in or register to reply here. How many roots should be showing from the Rockwool cube ? i have just given them water the last couple of days but they aren't showing any signs of recovery. in high humidity a wilting cutting will perk up within hours and not wilt. Both of these things can seriously damage and even kill your marijuana plant, which is why their presence might warrant fast action that goes against these guidelines. The thing is that if you transplant them just a tad too quickly, then you could risk causing irreversible damage or killing them outright, and it's a costly mistake that no one wants to experience. hiboy May 4, 2017 #2 Vonkins said: Check out my new Colloidal Silver GDP Seed Project Journal here on 420! Transplant shock in plants is almost unavoidable. A wireless transplanter can drastically cut down labor in your propagation process. Maybe shade it a day or 3 until it perks up. I wasn't pHing my water until just now. Some growers, and in particular, those who are new to the art, tend to rush the experience, but this can be very costly in the long run when your cannabis clones begin to fail, so it is important to make sure that you have all of the tools youll need on hand long before you consider transplanting clones. they could be eaten to recover the plant. Water the soil before transplanting so soil doesn't move around once the clone is in its new home. This happens because new growth occurs that is so minor, its nearly invisible to the naked eye, but a slightly new and more vibrant shade of green is a really good indication that your marijuana plant is well established and that its very likely ready for the big move. This goes for both seedlings and clones. I have poked my fingers into the soil of a few of them and although it's dry for at least an inch or two, there is moist soil towards the middle and bottom of each container. Starting a seed in a jiffy is no different than Starting it in the final container. What are ya'll keep yer cuttings wet with? How long do the clones wilt and droop after a transplant! I myself would let them be until the plant recovers, then decide what to do with them. does this happen to anyone else? I can get more pH'd water at the hydo store but they don't open til tomorrow morning so i guess a half cup will have to do for now. If the rootball dries out at all, the roots in the dry area will get damaged. Agreed. After transplanting into coco the general time frame between transplant and droop/wilt/crisp is 3 days. Just remove the humidity dome from your clones for a couple hours and watch all your clones wilt away. Jun 18, 2016. The first is related to root activity and function. They are going into shock from the low humidity. However, in the majority of situations, you should do everything within your power to ensure that it rests long enough to recover from the traumatic process, so try your best to be patient and wait unless danger is imminent. When you first make clones, its a shock to the small piece of the marijuana plant, and understandably so, as it was just freshly chopped away from safety and comfort, and this tends to cause significant dropping and to wilt that is easy to see by eye. U do this and decrease ur chances of wilting from dehydration. You can clone 7 weeks into flower and can clone in straight water with no hormone and right in soil I cloned right in soil. For those who want to achieve a yield from a bunch of plants that are all identical, cloning is the ideal way to preserve those genetics. Cloning Weed: A Beginner's Guide to Cloning A Cannabis Plant. Clones dont take very long to transform into a nice and stable little marijuana plant, but if you try to transplant them too soon, there will be sudden disruption to the root system that is trying so hard to grow and establish itself. Posts: 4951. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. THey are still and always will be clones. It's probably just in shock. Ph at 5.9 res temp 65 degrees F Air temp 72 degrees F humidity 35% Do you think the nutrients might still be a little high or is this normal during the transplant. or should i leach them to get the toxins out of the soil? If it is a plant with a main stem, cut off half of each leaf. "Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. And what soil did you plant them into? Wet a 6 inch circle in your container first. So, dont forget to bookmark this page for reference as you go through what can be a stressful yet exciting time that you dont want to accidentally rush through. Then I put them out under lights in open air. The humidity in the dome is high idk what it is exactly but its high and yes my room humidity is way lower we keep our room warmer around 78f we used soil starter plugs as a medium we are using organic potting soil with worm castings also we dug up about a hundred worms put them in the soil bags after washing them off. Bring your dying weed plant back to life. The solution is a boost to the plant's . Hey everyone- so I just started my first grow using clones. Hey guys, the Banana is doing EXCELLENT. When the garden, lights, or pots and soil are ready and available. Check the other thread. You say they rooted the "rock walls"? After reading this I think I fixed a couple kinks in my rockwool game. A whole week??? PH on clones is higher then plants need to in the 6.8 ranger.also you need to gel your cutting as soon as you make them to stop Embolism or air thats stops the clone from getting any nutes.temp need to be 75 to 78.light need to be around the 150 to 200 watt floro range.you need a good cloning solution oliva or your choice and keep them wet 24/7 lights on 24/7.clones can be tricky but once you are on your game its not a problem.I don't cut my leaves and i don't mist my clones.But thats me i think outside the box.If they tell me thats how its done ill look for a better way.lucky its been working so far lol. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. Now I stop calling cuttings "cuttings", once they root. Place the seed. When u first take a cut it needs 6 hours of dark. The transplant may be causing the wilting, not the dome. If they are "too firmly" seated, you may have bent or broken the stem and stopped water uptake. My nutrients levels are at 470ppm which was about half of what the bottle recommended dosage is for seedlings and clones. Join 420 Magazine and our collective mission of activists promoting Cannabis awareness since 1993. The more roots that come with the plant, the less likely transplant shock in plants will set in. Disturb the roots as little as possible Unless the plant is root bound, you should do as little as possible to the rootball when moving the plant from one location to the next. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. I don't know how far a MH/HPS should be hxvoc Resistance Commander Seven or more days for established roots. Powdery Mildew Under the Microscope! I watered them, they both came back up, then this one stopped and starting wilting again. Is there a formation of roots and if so are they wet?have they been under that light for a while? You are using an out of date browser. 1 or 2 or is it best to wait for more before transplanting into soil ? Do not shake the dirt off, bump the rootball, or rough up the roots. Any advice welcomed! Do not water again until soil is dry. Any tips/help is greatly appreciated. Clones are acclimated over 5-7 days in domes. So when do you not consider a clonea clone? Thank you. JavaScript is disabled. Try it, you'll be surprised. I have 4 clones, different strains. I use CFLs tho. Loving the show! This is my 2nd attempt, starting my first grow In my 44 tent. My tent is 3' x 2' x 5'- is 4 clones too much? Sent from my iPod touch using Forum Runner. Please Welcome New 420 Sponsor MJ Wholesale. The normal tray with no holes at the bottom having perlite spread out evenly and heavily saturated with water. I have 4 clones, different strains. Temps are around 76F and RH @ 60-70%. Also, is it good to let the plant sit in dry soil for a day before watering? Isn't the ideal around 6 for the soil? Generally, cannabis clones are temporarily placed into small pots that allow for hundreds if not thousands to be lined up in a very small space while they get themselves established, but most growers cant wait to switch their new babies over to vessels that are more suitable for a long term stay. cool that's an easy fix for those guys. The top tray of exact same size but its shallow and it has a grate like surface. The leaves are still green snd soft though, No you didn't come off as a dick at all, I'm the dunce for not realising this was the same plant..lol. How to Grow Marijuana - Everything You Need to Know! I found my clones do better with out humidity domes. Take a minute to sign upso you can ask questions, discuss your grow, orbrag about your plants with other real-life cannabis growers! By day four your plants should be accustomed to the environment, so you should be able to completely remove the baggie. I use T5s and CFLs for mine, then outside to veg in summer, or HO T5s in winter. Atleast one set is. The pots are 5 inches across at the top and filled with about 4 out 6 inches to the top with soil. When you got them, were they bare root or in soil? I'm holding steady at 90% the entire past year, doing this. That's when I remove the dome for 10 - 15 minutes, 2-3 times a day. should i wet the inside of the plastic wrap? when you clone using rooting plugs or rockwool under a dome you cant just take them out and transplant them after they root take the dome off if it wilts spray down and re-cover dome when it looks good do it again until such time as the plant can stay looking good and healthy with the dome off and not wilting That's how i see it. Here's what I'd do. I'm a freak about babying my clones before they get promoted to open air. Water thoroughly after transplanting An important transplant shock preventer is to make sure that your plant receives plenty of water after you move it. Top Your Plant and Clone the Growing Tip Too! First day use the entire baggie. Most plants will droop from shock when transplanted. Add some sugar Believe it or not, studies have shown that a weak sugar and water solution made with plain sugar from the grocery store given to a plant after transplanting can help recovery time for transplant shock in plants. Took your advice and just picked up a pH/light/moisture reader from the garden center. Are you PH'ing your water? So thsts what I started and to this date. Water every 3 days. The mother is healthy so i dont think its the soil we use room temp filtered water and let sit for 48 hours to dechlorinate the water. You will not see any new growth until well after the root system is established, because, in order to flourish like this, it needs to be able to eat, which it cant do until it has a grasp on the soils and nutrients inside of the pot. It doesn't come from seed. Once hitting top of dome, transplant to happy frog in 1 gal for 3-4 weeks, then 5 gal and flower time. I know the dispensaries say that the customers prefer clones in the rock wool cubes, but I personally can't stand the stuff, unless I'm using it for insulation or sound absorption. Ive always had 100% success rate once my clones achieve nice large roots and planted in coco now all of my clones are dying off and checking the roots, they look fine and the only thing Ive been able to track is that my humidity in the room is now tracking from 45%-51% and sometimes dipping below 45%. I personally never use domes and I don't get wilting. Water this in well. You cant grab just any old soil or dirt from the garden and hope it will be good enough, because this is a developing seedling that needs some extra love and care, and that is why, we highly recommend waiting until you have nutrient-dense soil, lights, and everything else you might need for it to flourish before you start. I just moved the wilting ones closer to the light, hoping that may help. Also a good 48 hours of darkness after taking the clones helps jump start the rooting. Someone always wimpers out and needs another day or 2 in the dome. It is just like hardening off transplants when we take them out of the greenhouse before we transplant them into the field. Bring as much of the roots as possible Along the same lines as the tip above for plant preparation, preventing shock means when digging up the plant, make sure as much of the root as possible is brought up with the plant. 5. unfortunately i gave them some tea and nutes and they aren't really rebounding like i had hoped. Trim back the plant Trimming back the plant allows the plant to focus on regrowing its roots. 06-07-2021, 05:59 AM. that be like at least 80% humidity yo. mix it in water use to presoak soil (mix well, don't make dirt to wet or too dry) also place plant in the dark or dim light ( no grow lights) for 4 or 5 hours to rest. While there is no sure-fire way to cure plant transplant shock, there are things you can do to minimize the transplant shock in plants. low humidity is why they are wilting. This IS one of them, the Banana. It turns red at 3, and all the plants were at about that level. Thanks JMystro. Some can keep clones going forever getting massive roots. I like to give a bit of Voodoo Juice when transplanting to help make new roots. I've seen this before with clones in rock wool. Mark the spot with a tooth pick or something. Thats all i can think of mate, dont mean to sound condecending. Clones don't take very long to transform into a nice and stable little marijuana plant, but if you try to transplant them too soon, there will be sudden disruption to the root system that is trying so hard to grow and establish itself. ohspyro89 Feesh. 50% is usually a little too low for most varieties out of a dome. They were about 2 feet from the light. OK so I just went ahead and have them the rest of my pH'd water, about a 1/2 cup for each one. When they are ready to be planted, simply fill the pot halfway with your dirt mix, then dig a small hole about 2in wide 1-2 in deep, and simply hold your clone with one hand by the stem, and put the roots down into the soil, back filling the soil you dug out of the hole to cover the roots. JavaScript is disabled. The leaves may recover or may not. it just needed some water and light. Get some plastic wrap over the planter to hold in moisture. OK, so i've been letting them dry out for the last couple days and they don't seem to be getting any worse at least. Join 420 Magazine and our collective mission of activists promoting Cannabis awareness since 1993. What's the problem? After 30 days, fertilize with 10-50-10 ratio fertilizer. International Marijuana news, reviews and forums where you can utilize our scientific and medical articles, helping you to grow your own Cannabis. how about first aid? Step 4: analyse your growing medium. Maybe shade it a day or 3 until it perks up. i've noticed that if i run the humidifier thru the dark cycle it can reach 80-90% humidity, or if i leave it off it stays around 40-50, which is better? It's not uncommon nor a big deal. I have a 100 percent rooting success rate. I just mist 3 or 4 times a day. Clones dont exactly change color just from being cut away from the mother plant, but once theyre established, they do tend to brighten up a bit in color. what are your average times from cut to root? I do 48 hours of darkness and then 24 hour light with low wattage about 4 inches away. Wait patiently Sometimes a plant just needs a few days to recover from transplant shock. Roots emerging form the bottom or side of propagation media. Photo Courtesy Heartland industries Automated Transplant Often time I was just out planting what looked to be sticks. Transplanting young marijuana clones or seedlings is one of the first things novice gardeners need to master. Please Help! I myself would let them be until the plant recovers, then decide what to do with them. I assume that it is best to wait until this is dry as well before the next watering? When you say let it completely dry do you mean event the soil that's an inch or two down? Trim back the plant - Trimming back the plant allows the plant to focus on regrowing its roots. Seedlings Dying! So I purchased mine and do not currently have a dome, any recommendations to bring them back to life before its too late? Then moved on to jiffy pellets and got to thinking. All times are GMT-5. I had 2 pop upside-down because I buried the seed wrong but that's it. It only helps with some plants but, as this will not harm the plant, it is worth a try. But, there are a few things to know about how to avoid transplant shock and cure plant transplant shock after it has occurred. So, Ive never had any issues shown here until about a month ago. Whether you see new tiny leaves or the development of other possible growth or production such an increase in crystals or height, then this is a really good indicator that your clones are strong and healthy, and could probably tolerate a move to a more permanent residence. 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